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"A Conversation..."

I asked for commentary about the problems that we are facing (support and dissent) and expected to get a little of each. I never expected to get anything like this. this is an actual conversation I had with this guy through my email. The first letter was so offensive I had to reply and then it all went on from that point. This is the mentality that we are dealing with on this issue. I asked this guy if he wanted me to post and with no reply I can only assume he does not mind. I did remove his name and email to protect his privacy. C.P. if you are out there, I'll put your name and email on this if you wish, just let me know...

Anyway here's how it went;

From: C****** P****** (******@******.com)
To: gordon wise (ultrafright@hotmail.com)
Subject: Comment
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:23:14 -0500

I don’t understand why this is important. Just another excuse for our youth to drink and act crazy. There are a lot more important issues to address. I DON’T CARE!

From: gordon wise (ultrafright@hotmail.com)
Sent:Tue 8/14/07 7:04 PM
To: C****** P****** (******@******.com)

Even though you do not care i do appreciate you taking enough time to send your note. If you wish me to post this comment on the site, i will. just let me know.

WE DO CARE about the safety of the kids (and their families) who come to our very well supervised event of 20 years. We also care about the 100 or so annual jobs that will be affected by any accident that may happen as a result of the reckless introduction of vehicular traffic by the Pearl Developers into the safe queing area that we have been providing for the last 7 years. As for the conduct of "our youth" that attend our event, Nightmare on Grayson's history and reputation speaks for itself. You obviously have never even set foot close to us when we are open, there is not a better organized and policed event in San Antonio at any time, period. If i didn't have to worry about the welfare of "our youth" I could address "a lot more important issues"

Don't worry we will still watch out for your kids, as we always have, regardless if you notice or not.

Gordon C. Wise

From: C****** P****** (******@******.com)
Sent:Tue 8/14/07 9:17 PM
To: 'gordon wise' (ultrafright@hotmail.com)

You are wrong. I did attend your event many years ago. Was not impressed by it, so have never been back. Just don’t understand why you demand to close a public street so you can make a little money. Evidently, your business neighbors feel the same way. If the youth are not smart enough to stay out of traffic, they get what is coming to them and maybe then you will see the liability is not worth it.

From: gordon wise (ultrafright@hotmail.com)
Sent:Tue 8/14/07 11:23 PM
To: C****** P****** (******@******.com)

"...If the youth are not smart enough to stay out of traffic, they get what is coming to them..."

Brilliant, Mr. P******! I can see, clearly, you are a people person.

The newest of seven business neighbors' one voice dissent hardly qualifies as credible or overwhelming opposition but, there is a lot to be said of the voice of money and power and it's influence on our city's governing body. Aside from you and Silver Ventures, we are actually surrounded by support. Demand is also strong word for the simple City prescribed process we have been going through to get this closure prior the new neighbor. Call the San Antonio Chief of Police or the San Antonio Fire Marshal if you would like to get an opinion that about the way we do business or what might be considered an appropriate business decision.

Stand alone with our neighbor, Sir, in your belief that our actions are for profit, and sorry you didn't enjoy the show, I’ll let the staff know how you felt, and we will try harder for the next guy if you choose to not come back.

What I do not understand is what is so wrong with anything that we do - or have ever done. If your not into it, do something else and let the people that are, not be encumbered by your presence. Personally, as far as I'm concerned, you are always welcome.

Gordon C. Wise
Director of Operations
Nightmare on Grayson

P.s. just for the record we do not, nor have we ever, served alcohol at our event nor do we tolerate the use of any time that we are open so any drinking that you have referred to in your first letter did not occur at Nightmare on Grayson. If you can find one complaint, ticket citation or fine we have ever incurred (for anything) I would be delighted to see it, there have always been plenty of officers around to witness it if it ever happened.

- I will continue to cheerfully respond as long as it does not bring your offense.

no response, as of yet...

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CLICK HERE TO POST

DATE: 7/19/07

FROM: Gordon Wise, Site Manager.

Please use this space to post your coments for or against. Thank you for your interest.

Gordon-

DATE: 7/19/07 (e-mail)

FROM: Tracy Cusack - mom

Dont understand the need for all the car traffic- safety of the kids should be thought out- come on Pearl Close the roads !

T.C.

DATE: 7/17/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Anonymous , Texas

Diversity is what makes San Antonio one of the most memorable and unique cities in America. Nightmare on Grayson is a safe, charitable way to celebrate fall in San Antonio. Since this request doesn't involve a residential area, there should be no problem in allowing the closure of these streets during the evening hours to promote public safety...especially since a majority of the visitors will be children and young adults. Keep San Antonio safe and allow San Antonio%u2019s children to celebrate a tried and true American holiday in a safe and secure atmosphere.

Anonymous , Texas

DATE: 7/17/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM:Anonymous , Texas

It is very important to allow the closure that Nightmare on Grayson is requesting.

Anonymous , Texas

DATE: 7/19/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Anonymous , New Hampshire

sounds like it would be a good thing for the community and buisnesses in the area

Anonymous , New Hampshire

DATE: 7/19/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Charles Robinson , Texas

Don't grant economic favoritism to the Pearl Brewery. And remind me, how do nighttime street closures affect ANY businesses in the new Pearl Brewery complex? Nightmare on Grayson is an institution, and should be respected as such, regardless of their neighbors' whims.

Charles Robinson , Texas

DATE: 7/20/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Livi Goss , Texas

This is capitalism vs. localsim at some of it's very worst.

Livi Goss , Texas

DATE: 7/20/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Eddie Blanquiz , Texas

Nightmare on Grayson is a San Antonio past time for all Halloween lovers! It is a travesty to try and take away anything from these people for only a few weeks out of one year!

Eddie Blanquiz , Texas

DATE: 7/20/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Livi Goss , Texas

This is capitalism vs. localsim at some of it's very worst.

Livi Goss , Texas

DATE: 7/22/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Desi Mendiola , Texas

Grayson rocks dude. Whats the prob with closing down a portion of the street for 5 n half hours for like 2- 3 wks on certain days. I think of it as the city enforcing great safety rules. Its makes the city n th company look smart. So come'on its all in god faith im all for it

Desi Mendiola , Texas

DATE: 7/22/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Mindy Neidner , Texas

Nightmare on Grayson is an annual event/tradition that everyone loves and looks forward to each year. If Nightmare on Grayson is closed then I will encourage everyone to boycott the Pearl Brewery and any companies affiliated with them. Extreme? No, I love Halloween and I know you do too!

Mindy Neidner , Texas

DATE: 7/2207 5:15P (www.myspace.com/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: The PIG STAND

The PIG STAND crew LOVES all our friends/neighbors at NIGHTMARE ON GRAYSON! Everyone out there needs to sign on & be heard.... Nightmare On Grayson is a 20-year tradition in San Antone that has never been less than a positive, beneficial, and FUN part of our community. "Fright For What's Right"!!

The PIG STAND

DATE: 7/22/07 (www.myspace.com/frightforwhatsright)

FROM:Mike Franklin , Texas

I've been a Peace Officer for over 30 years. I've work hundreds of events during my career. I can, without reservation, state that NOG, Nightmare On Grayson, is the safest, most wholesome family type event I've ever been associated with. I've worked security for NOG for years without a single incident involving a major criminal act. The Staff works hard to ensure the safety of everyone coming to NOG. There is a close watch for any abuse of alcohol or drugs. Disorderly Conduct or unsafe practices are not tolerated.
NOG makes a real effort to reach out to the San Antonio Community. Last year alone NOG gave out free tickets to many local students who would not have otherwise been able to attend any event of this type. I know that many of the employees are area college students who depend on income from NOG to help with their college expenses. I have met customers who have come from as far away as Austin and Uvalde to see NOG. This is one of those top San Antonio Attractions that needs to be supported by the City of San Antonio.

Mike Franklin

DATE: 7/23/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Allison Dawson , Texas

Love Nightmare on Grayson and the event is so large how can you not close the streets? Good luck!

Allison Dawson , Texas

DATE: 7/23/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Anonymous , Texas

Nightmare on Grayson is something that everybody in my school looks forward to during this time, please let it have temporary closure for public saftey!

Anonymous , Texas

DATE: 7/23/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Luis Luera jr , Texas

we need this annual event it has become a family tradition for us

Luis Luera jr , Texas

DATE: 7/24/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Anonymous , Texas

My kids & I have always LOVED going to Nightmare on Grayson - because a lot of teens do attend its great they're thinking about keeping the public safe

Anonymous , Texas

DATE: 7/24/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Anonymous , Texas

think its absoluelty retarded that they want to close down nightmare on grason. That has been around since my parents time and why should we stop a tradition? There is no reason especialy when its a one year event. I have been going there since i was a little kid and i intend to take my kid when he is old enough. you shouldn't shut down a great thing...a fun fiesta for both the old and young. keep NMOG OPEN!!!!!!!!

Anonymous , Texas

DATE: 7/25/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Sandra Cortez , Texas

nightmare on grayson has no negative impact at all.its halloween.if u dont like it because it has a negative impact on the surrounding area well people from all over san antonio caome to nighmare on grayson.so that shows to prove the people who want to close it down didnt even think this through.also come on its just for a couple of days out of a year.nighmare on grayson has been here longer than the company trying to close it down, so why should they be the ones to do it.they are being selfish but just stating a reason that city council would agrwee too.plz plz keep it going.its a tradition in this town that needs to be kept alive.i rlly love nightmare on grayson its good clean scary fun! people have fun there and enjoy being there.its san antonio's fun time.so plz dont close it down.i love it there.i know i am only thirteen but still dosent what i think count still? there are so many people in san antonio that love nighmare on grayson.why should one company be able to shut it down?

Sandra Cortez , Texas

DATE: 7/26/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Ron Hoffmann, Texas

My family and I have always had a blast at the haunted house on Grayson. Can't believe it would no longer be around. It is a SA tradition for Halloween.

Ron Hoffmann, Texas

DATE: 7/26/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Jose Guajardo, Texas

Grayson is San Antonio institution.

Jose Guajardo, Texas

DATE: 7/27/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Israel Martinez, Texas

Who does Pearl Brewer think they are by telling Grayson they can't do what they've always been doing for years now. If it bothers them so much then maybe THEY should close for the dates that this events take place. I never had anything against Pearl Brewer, but something like this will make me not ever buy any of their products and encourage other people to do the same. BOYCOTT PEARL BREWER. I also think they OWN AN APOLOGY TO NIGHTMARE ON GRAYSON.

Israel Martinez, Texas

DATE: 7/27/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Brandon Jones, Texas

Keep San Antonio's citizens safe during big events such as this

Brandon Jones, Texas

DATE: 7/28/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Tanya Montez, Texas

I HATE when people try to change things that will impact lives other than their own. Why would you put a stop to something that comes around once a year?

Tanya Montez, Texas

DATE: 7/28/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: John W Hopkins, Texas

Nightmare on Grayson has been around for years; the people responsible for the Pearl development knew this before they started. If this event is something you don't want around your "upscale" development then develop elsewhere. Try outside the loop.

John W Hopkins, Texas

DATE: 7/28/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Alvin Ecarma, California

Keep Halloween Alive!

Alvin Ecarma, California

DATE: 7/29/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Mary West, Texas

riends and family have been going to nightmare on grayson for years... it's part of tradition now

Mary West, Texas

DATE: 7/29/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Wes Beadle, Texas

Pearl needs to focus on itself and not interfere with a SA tradition. This bad publicity can't be good for Pearl -not too smart Pearl...

Wes Beadle, Texas

DATE: 7/30/07 (www.thepetitionsite.com/1/frightforwhatsright)

FROM: Jonathan McCaleb, Texas

NOG has become a tradition, almost an institution. I hope Pearl Brewery and the city council will see the light and allow it to continue providing a safe, fun and enjoyable Halloween event.

Jonathan McCaleb, Texas